Player Score Input

[Ian]

Just recieved notification that we have to enter our own scores for all
competitions.

Anyone have any experience of these systems? Seems a little wrong to me that
competition scores are entered into the handicap system by the players
themselves. As I suspect that only the winners will be validated by
t'commitee, the rest of the field have scope to 'adjust' scores to suit
their own requirements. If discovered, well this new fangled technology is
confusing....

Ian

[Mark Myers]

On Thu, 3 Mar 2011 14:52:48 -0000, Ian said...

Post by Ian
Just recieved notification that we have to enter our own scores for all
competitions.
Anyone have any experience of these systems? Seems a little wrong to me that
competition scores are entered into the handicap system by the players
themselves. As I suspect that only the winners will be validated by
t'commitee, the rest of the field have scope to 'adjust' scores to suit
their own requirements. If discovered, well this new fangled technology is
confusing....

I understand this is reasonably common, but haven't experienced it
myself. I share your reservations.

[JohnH]

We have been using this system for at least 3 years now. As I sit on
the Competition Committee as well as being a playing member let me
give you a few thoughts, in no particular order

It is not onerous having to enter your details and indeed it helps to
validate your score, especially in a stableford competition as it
works out the correct points which should tally with your card. I
appreciate that there is no penalty for not calculating stableford
corectly but it is best to get it right first-time.

It would be useful to get members to leave couple of old pairs of
reading glasses near to the computer to aid input for those who do not
have their glasses with them.

We have ~130 members playing in most medals so that is a significant
reduction in time spent managing the competition,

Automatic reduction/increase of handicap is managed well with little
or no arguments

If you do not put your score in it does not lead to disqaulifiation
although I am sure we woudl be asking persistent offenders why they
did not enter their scores or get someone else to do so.

The main downside we see is that if the entry terminal becomes
unavailable during the day it beomes a messy process in working out
who is enetered and who needs inputting

John

[JohnH]

To answer Ian's original point. I agree that there is room for
cheating, however the score-card has been signed by a playing partner.
To input an incorrect, especially lower score than that recoded on the
card could be considered mis-typing on the first occasion but becomes
suspect thereafter.

In reality we do not check all 130 cards but just the top few unless
something jumps out as we run through the cards to find the best
scores. However if we did have reason to suspect anything we could be
very scrupulous for future cards.

Don't forget that if I have signed for a 72 and my score goes up on
the result sheet as a 70 or 74 my playing partner might well notice
and query it.

John

[Mark Myers]

On Fri, 4 Mar 2011 05:08:33 -0800 (PST), JohnH said...

Post by JohnH
Don't forget that if I have signed for a 72 and my score goes up on
the result sheet as a 70 or 74 my playing partner might well notice
and query it.

Yes, now I think about it if we did use this system everyone would be
looking at the posted results to see how they did with respect to other
players. Any discrepancies would soon be spotted.

[Ian]

Post by Mark Myers
On Fri, 4 Mar 2011 05:08:33 -0800 (PST), JohnH said...

Post by JohnH
Don't forget that if I have signed for a 72 and my score goes up on
the result sheet as a 70 or 74 my playing partner might well notice
and query it.

Yes, now I think about it if we did use this system everyone would be
looking at the posted results to see how they did with respect to other
players. Any discrepancies would soon be spotted.
--
Mark Myers
usenet at mcm2007 dot plus dot com

We start using the system from this coming weekend. I will be fascinated to
see how long the queue to input scores is at 15.30 :)

[MaggieB]

Post by Ian

Post by Mark Myers
On Fri, 4 Mar 2011 05:08:33 -0800 (PST), JohnH said...

Post by JohnH
Don't forget that if I have signed for a 72 and my score goes up on
the result sheet as a 70 or 74 my playing partner might well notice
and query it.

Yes, now I think about it if we did use this system everyone would be
looking at the posted results to see how they did with respect to other
players. Any discrepancies would soon be spotted.
--
Mark Myers
usenet at mcm2007 dot plus dot com

We start using the system from this coming weekend. I will be fascinated
to see how long the queue to input scores is at 15.30 :)

We started ours this weekend just gone and the system fell over!

[Ian]

Post by Ian
Just recieved notification that we have to enter our own scores for all
competitions.
Anyone have any experience of these systems? Seems a little wrong to me
that competition scores are entered into the handicap system by the
players themselves. As I suspect that only the winners will be validated
by t'commitee, the rest of the field have scope to 'adjust' scores to suit
their own requirements. If discovered, well this new fangled technology is
confusing....
Ian

1st weekend of the new system

it was broken, just put cards in the box as normal pls

[AS]

Post by Ian
Anyone have any experience of these systems? Seems a little wrong to me
that competition scores are entered into the handicap system by the
players themselves. As I suspect that only the winners will be validated
by t'commitee, the rest of the field have scope to 'adjust' scores to
suit their own requirements. If discovered, well this new fangled
technology is confusing....
Ian

We've used this for some years. Things to note...

1. There is little additional scope for 'adjusting' scores as any card
may be inspected. Unusual scores get checked manually as well.

2. It works on a PC network and these are prone to falling over. If
there is someone to reboot that usually does it.

3. Practice makes perfect - it's common for one member to read out
scores whilst someone else keys in, and one can get the 3 medal scores
done in under 2 minutes.

4. Sends it all off to CDH automatically

AS

[Alan]

Post by AS

Post by Ian
Anyone have any experience of these systems? Seems a little wrong to me
that competition scores are entered into the handicap system by the
players themselves. As I suspect that only the winners will be validated
by t'commitee, the rest of the field have scope to 'adjust' scores to
suit their own requirements. If discovered, well this new fangled
technology is confusing....
Ian

We've used this for some years. Things to note...
1. There is little additional scope for 'adjusting' scores as any card
may be inspected. Unusual scores get checked manually as well.
2. It works on a PC network and these are prone to falling over. If there
is someone to reboot that usually does it.
3. Practice makes perfect - it's common for one member to read out scores
whilst someone else keys in, and one can get the 3 medal scores done in
under 2 minutes.
4. Sends it all off to CDH automatically
AS

My club has used it for several years now and our
experience is very similar to that of AS's club.

I would add that golf is a game of trust and the question
about scope for 'adjusting' scores should not arise.

Cheers, Alan