Hillbilly problem

[John Turner]

I have a Hillbilly All Terrain model, about three years old, but I only use
it when buggies are prohibited due to the conditions on the course, so quite
frequently at this time of the year. In any event, the battery has remained
on charge when not in use.

I am having a problem with the trolley running smoothly, then coming to a
stop, and then starting forward again with a jerky motion. So far I haven't
failed to make it round the course but I have that sinking feeling that one
day, at the farthest reaches of the course Mr Murphy will rear his sense of
humour.

Intuition says that there is a loose connection somewhere, but I can't see
one.

Has anyone experienced this problem in the past?, and even more importantly,
do they then have a solution to offer.

Cheers

JohnT

[david s-a]

Post by John Turner
Has anyone experienced this problem in the past?, and even more importantly,
do they then have a solution to offer.

John,

While not familiar with this particular model I do sometimes experience
similar symptoms with my own unit. In my case there is a removable
plug-in connector leading from the control on the handle and which plugs
into the 'black box' located very close to the motor. (it is removed
with the handle when the unit is dismantled for transport). I wouldn't
know the correct way of describing this plug exept that it is a single
'prod' about 1/4" diameter 2½" long, looks something similar to the old
telephone 'jacks' used before automatic telephone exchanges came into
general use.

Whereas the female socket for this particular 'jack' is mechanically
connected to the metal 'black box' it is also obviously connected
electrically to the circuit board inside. I understand a so-called 'dry
joint' of the soldered connection is the probable cause of this
intermittent fault, excacerbated sometimes by warm moist and humid
conditions, or simply rough terrain.

One day I will open the thing up and fix it properly...but for the
moment a little wiggling of the 'jack' seems to do the trick.

You have probably got a 'dry joint' somewhere in your wiring......wiggle
everything about a bit and see what happens.

cheers
david

[Pat Williams]

......wiggle everything about a bit and see what happens.

Like a belly dancer?????????????

JPW

[Paul Schmitz-Josten]

david s-a in <***@mid.individual.net>:

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Post by david s-a
You have probably got a 'dry joint' somewhere in your wiring......wiggle
everything about a bit and see what happens.

Attention!

Your wiggling might as well terminally break up the connection and put
the trolley out of operation - Mr. Murphy will decide where and when this
is going to happen!

Maybe you should get the electronic fixed rather sooner than later...

Ciao,

Paul

[Malcolm Wadsworth]

"david s-a" <***@bigpond.net.au> wrote in message news:***@mid.individual.net...

......wiggle

Post by david s-a
everything about a bit and see what happens.
cheers
david

Hillybilly, I thought, has a super reputation for giving technical advice
over the telephone.

I'm not an engineer, but does the wiggling about a bit come before using the
Birmingham screwdriver or after?

Regards,
Malcolm

[mike short]

Post by david s-a
......wiggle

Post by david s-a
everything about a bit and see what happens.
cheers
david

Hillybilly, I thought, has a super reputation for giving technical advice
over the telephone.
I'm not an engineer, but does the wiggling about a bit come before using the
Birmingham screwdriver or after?
Regards,
Malcolm

'Birmingham screwdriver'! indeed. Not heard that one before. Hope it is
not some kind of slur upon the craftsman of that city - home of BSA
and the austin mini not to mention the pioneering engineers Mattthew
Boulton and James Watt - as just a bunch of metal bashers !!

[greenkeeper]

Post by mike short

Post by david s-a
......wiggle

Post by david s-a
everything about a bit and see what happens.
cheers
david

Hillybilly, I thought, has a super reputation for giving technical
advice over the telephone.
I'm not an engineer, but does the wiggling about a bit come before
using the Birmingham screwdriver or after?
Regards,
Malcolm

'Birmingham screwdriver'! indeed. Not heard that one before. Hope it is
not some kind of slur upon the craftsman of that city - home of BSA and
the austin mini not to mention the pioneering engineers Mattthew
Boulton and James Watt - as just a bunch of metal bashers !!

James Watt a Brummie? :-) No way, he's a Scot. He did work there though.

The weather today was a wee bit like this.

http://www.pbase.com/alancampbell/image/51979754/medium

[Malcolm Wadsworth]

Post by mike short

Post by david s-a
......wiggle

Post by david s-a
everything about a bit and see what happens.
cheers
david

Hillybilly, I thought, has a super reputation for giving technical advice
over the telephone.
I'm not an engineer, but does the wiggling about a bit come before using
the Birmingham screwdriver or after?
Regards,
Malcolm

'Birmingham screwdriver'! indeed. Not heard that one before. Hope it is
not some kind of slur upon the craftsman of that city - home of BSA and
the austin mini not to mention the pioneering engineers Mattthew Boulton
and James Watt - as just a bunch of metal bashers !!

Another name for a hammer. ;-)

[newbryford]

On 18 Feb, 00:14, "Malcolm Wadsworth"

Post by mike short

Post by david s-a
......wiggle

Post by david s-a
everything about a bit and see what happens.
cheers
david

Hillybilly, I thought, has a super reputation for giving technical advice
over the telephone.
I'm not an engineer, but does the wiggling about a bit come before using
the Birmingham screwdriver or after?
Regards,
Malcolm

'Birmingham screwdriver'! indeed. Not heard that one before. Hope it is
not some kind of slur upon the craftsman of that city - home of BSA and
the austin mini not to mention the pioneering engineers Mattthew Boulton
and James Watt - as just a bunch of metal bashers !!

Another name for a hammer. ;-)- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -

Also known as a Manchester spanner..

Cheers,
Mick

[mike short]

Post by Malcolm Wadsworth

Post by mike short

Post by david s-a
......wiggle

Post by david s-a
everything about a bit and see what happens.
cheers
david

Hillybilly, I thought, has a super reputation for giving technical advice
over the telephone.
I'm not an engineer, but does the wiggling about a bit come before using
the Birmingham screwdriver or after?
Regards,
Malcolm

'Birmingham screwdriver'! indeed. Not heard that one before. Hope it is
not some kind of slur upon the craftsman of that city - home of BSA and
the austin mini not to mention the pioneering engineers Mattthew Boulton
and James Watt - as just a bunch of metal bashers !!

Another name for a hammer. ;-)

Not in Birmingham it isn't !!!

[Alan Murphy]

Post by david s-a

Post by John Turner
Has anyone experienced this problem in the past?, and even more
importantly, do they then have a solution to offer.

John,
While not familiar with this particular model I do sometimes experience
similar symptoms with my own unit. In my case there is a removable
plug-in connector leading from the control on the handle and which plugs
into the 'black box' located very close to the motor. (it is removed with
the handle when the unit is dismantled for transport). I wouldn't know
the correct way of describing this plug exept that it is a single 'prod'
about 1/4" diameter 2œ" long, looks something similar to the old
telephone 'jacks' used before automatic telephone exchanges came into
general use.
Whereas the female socket for this particular 'jack' is mechanically
connected to the metal 'black box' it is also obviously connected
electrically to the circuit board inside. I understand a so-called 'dry
joint' of the soldered connection is the probable cause of this
intermittent fault, excacerbated sometimes by warm moist and humid
conditions, or simply rough terrain.
One day I will open the thing up and fix it properly...but for the moment
a little wiggling of the 'jack' seems to do the trick.
You have probably got a 'dry joint' somewhere in your wiring......wiggle
everything about a bit and see what happens.
cheers
david

I had a problem with this connector and solved it by
replacing it with an electrical junction connecter. That's
the square plastic one with a hole for the wires and a
screw at each end to clamp them. Taped it up with
insulation tape - green to match the trolley :-) Hillbilly
will probably mail you a new connector foc if you
contact them.

Alan

[John]

Post by John Turner
I have a Hillbilly All Terrain model, about three years old, but I only use
it when buggies are prohibited due to the conditions on the course, so
quite frequently at this time of the year. In any event, the battery has
remained on charge when not in use.
I am having a problem with the trolley running smoothly, then coming to a
stop, and then starting forward again with a jerky motion. So far I
haven't failed to make it round the course but I have that sinking feeling
that one day, at the farthest reaches of the course Mr Murphy will rear
his sense of humour.
Intuition says that there is a loose connection somewhere, but I can't see
one.
Has anyone experienced this problem in the past?, and even more
importantly, do they then have a solution to offer.
Cheers
JohnT
This fault can sometimes be down to worn brushes, easy to replace.

Regards John

[Chris]

Post by John Turner
I have a Hillbilly All Terrain model, about three years old, but I only use
it when buggies are prohibited due to the conditions on the course, so quite
frequently at this time of the year. In any event, the battery has remained
on charge when not in use.
I am having a problem with the trolley running smoothly, then coming to a
stop, and then starting forward again with a jerky motion. So far I haven't
failed to make it round the course but I have that sinking feeling that one
day, at the farthest reaches of the course Mr Murphy will rear his sense of
humour.
Intuition says that there is a loose connection somewhere, but I can't see
one.
Has anyone experienced this problem in the past?, and even more importantly,
do they then have a solution to offer.
Cheers
JohnT

John, a email/phone call to Hillybilly will get your trolley reliable
again. I have had just a single fault with mine, they posted the same
day, the parts I needed!

Sounds like lack of regular use will be part of the cause, the connector
from the battery is a likely suspect.

Chris